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"Whistleblower." Is a term used for going public with sensitive information about your employer when they have acted illegally, or in some way that's not the norm. Ladbrokes are a good example! If anyone can submit information that leads to the result of me getting my money, £260,000 I will give you half of it!!! And that's a Promise, declared on this site for everybody to see! It might not even be relevant to my case but something unsavoury, another matter that you personably would not want to reveal. Ammo is ammo and I will use it. From what I have gathered over the years, there are a lot of staff that work there because it is a job and nothing else.

If anyone knows where Richard, the engineer lives, or has his phone number, I would be most grateful. I need to speak to him urgently! I was contacted by an individual who went onto say that he had heard Richard talk about my dilemma in a pub years ago, and that Ladbrokes had stitched me up. I know he was in an awkward position then, so I do understand. Something of this nature is hard to keep to yourself and maybe he has mentioned it to other staff over the years. While I'm at it, can anyone give me any info on Mr. Helsden from security at Harrow office. Also does anyone know the whereabouts of Mr. Donavan? He worked there years ago! These 3 characters have a lot to answer for! And it would be nice if I could, somehow, summon them to court.

To all the staff out there, ask me any question you want on the matter, and I will give you an answer.

To the caller on Bank holiday. Thanks for the message you left. Yes, it was definitely the cartridge type camera, model - Abloy, made by Vincent. It was over 20 yrs old at the time I placed my bet! Ladbrokes maintained that they pulled the excess film out, as you know, that is a load of ole cobblers!

So there was no reason for all that film to be displaced all over the floor. The other subject you mentioned, about the top copy of the betting slip. It was never shown to me, nor was it brought to the 2 hearings I had with Tattersalls. A bit odd that! Also why did Ladbrokes staff sit behind with the members of Tattersalls while I sat in the front? Not the type of setup you would expect if Tattersalls were an independent body for these hearings. Why did they tell so many porkie pies? They lied about the age of the camera, how many bets were missing, the training of the staff and so on, and they would not show me the top copy of the bet.

Thanks for all the calls and messages. I will only place some of them below. Not being rude, but some of the info I receive is already covered

Can anyone tell me if they have ever heard of a film, or seen a film come out of a cartridge by mistake? I ask this because I am beginning to think that it may have been pulled out purposely, as Ladbrokes did not get the chance to knobble the bet?

So many staff and punters at the desk would have seen what had happened. It maybe an excuse they could have used if needed for staff issues. The staff did ask questions, but they were fobbed off. And when I smashed that ancient camera, they carried on trading without one, for a day and a half! Is that right?

Hi Keith, I have worked for various bookmakers over the years. The film stays in the cartridge, period! It is sent of to be developed. Your predicament, all I can say is that the cartridge was either faulty or the film was pulled out intentionally.

Good luck with your quest.

I downloaded the book and I have to say, " brilliant and you should write another one." I couldn't put it down. I will spread the word.

Bye Keith and do not let up!

To the person who rang me on 7/6/05 and left a message! Please call me back! One of Ladbrokes staff contacted me, and told me he had read the book, and decided to ring Ladbrokes head office, but not letting them know he was an employee.

I asked them for a good reason for not paying out. I was told at first, that the web site and the book had nothing to do with Ladbrokes, but I persisted with my barrage of questions, which were never answered. I also went onto say that Mr. Hughan was subjected to a full police inquiry, only because he would not back off! And they found no grounds to prosecute him. However the police found a lot of faults with Ladbrokes system. So why not pay up? I was told the incident took place over 10 yrs ago, and we were exonerated by Tattersalls. Well, we all know how corrupt they are, I said. I put the phone down in disgust! Keith, I enjoyed the book immensely, and I hope someday you will be able to put this saga behind you.

Bye ......

Hello Keith.

Read the book, what a story! I must admit, I thought you was try to pull a fast one here. But as I read on and got deeper into the book, I thought very differently. I work for Ladbrokes, so I know them mistakes happened all the time. What got me, was the hearings you had with Tattersalls, what hope did you have? The cartridge type camera that was used in the shop where you placed the bet, does not require the film to be pulled out! the cartridge is taken out and sent of to be developed. The only thing I can think of, is the the film got caught up in the machine, a bit like a cassette does sometimes in a player, or it may have been done deliberately as the bet was knocked out. If your bet is not on the camera then it is void! No ifs or buts! Before I go I must say that Ladbrokes should have looked at your case more sympathetically, as it was their untrained staff in their shop at that time. Different staff and hey your life would have been different.

God bless you Keith!

Hiya!

borrowed your book from a work mate. Wowee! What a story! Read from start to finish non stop, didn't get to bed till 2.30 am. I cannot believe that Ladbrokes went that far to stitch you up! Well I don't give a fuck about my employees, yes it is just a job. I'll keep my ears to the ground, the walls, the ceilings. If anything pops up, you'll know!

Bye and keep at em!

Dear Keith, I have looked through this web site and have to say that Ladbrokes are a law to themselves, and that they have acted shamefully. They are no different from any other bookmaker, as I have worked for others in the past. If they can fix a bet they will. And as for staff, well I have worked with many over the years. The mistakes that have been made to the cost of the punter and hushed up are numerous. Staff are not what they seem either as you have found out. Keep your chin up and when I have read the book, which I will purchase this weekend, I will write to you again.

Bye for now.

Ha! I saw your flyer and decided to look this web site up. I couldn't believe my eyes. Ladbrokes, with all that clout could not stop this web site. Great site! Find it very amusing, but damaging towards Ladbrokes integrity in dealing with their customers.

I Liked the horses mouth. Is that your home number? May well give you a call, would like to know more. Speak to you soon Keith! PS I bet a lot of our staff are grinning like Cheshire cats! Ladbrokes are big, but they are stuck with this, super!

Bye

Hi Keith.

Had the giggles when I saw your web site. It looks as though you've been campaigning for many years, and rightly so! Do not give into them. Stay in there boy, my heart is with you! I agree with what the other staff have mentioned about the camera. They do not take film out of a cartridge, so Ladbrokes are lying through their teeth.

C ya! Tom Jones from Wales :-)

 

Hello Keith,

I see you have bombarded Wales with your flyers, but it was a Scottish lass that gave you the name for the web site. Long live the Scots, and hang on in there man! Ladbrokes, wee bastards they are. Mind you, all betting shops ruin a lot of lives.

Take care now!

Hi Keith,

If I come across anything I will let you know. To the Scottish, wee, wee, wee, Welsh have better voices and that's a fact!!!!!! He! He! Please add this Keith and have a good day.

Dear Keith,

have worked for all the big bookmakers, and I have to say Ladbrokes have been the worst. In my time as a cashier I can honestly say that the mistakes that have been made, extend from petty to really big whoppers. Most of the time its down to inexperienced staff. And guess who suffers, the punter. Well I do not need to tell you that, do I? Hope you get somewhere with this site.

Good Luck.

Dear Keith,

I hope you print this. Although I do not work for a bookmaker anymore, I did work for Ladbrokes many years ago. I was employed by them at the time of your bet, but in another area. In that era, a lot of the cameras were faulty. Mistakes were made on a continuous basis, so I sympathize with the young girl that took your bet, and of coarse, you!

As any staff would know, the girl should not have been on a till on her own. There is a procedure that all staff should follow when first employed. They must be shadowed by another member of staff when operating such equipment. This may take up to 2-3 weeks, some obviously are quicker than others, but those are the fundamental rules that must be followed. At the end of the day we are responsible for the punters money. Mind you it can also backfire on the bookmaker.

I have known many a time where the punter has been over paid, but more often its the punter that gets under paid. I have also known staff to fiddle the punters winnings and pocket the rest because the poor punter had no idea of what he or she should get paid out.

One occasion, I will never forget, a few extra naught's should have been added to the figure that was paid out. It was split amongst the staff, and I have to admit I was one of them. I took it because I was frightened to go against the other staff. There were many times when the bet was taken and not flashed on the camera, especially if it was thought of as a definite looser. The money was pocketed by the staff.

It was easy to do, but a win on a magnitude such as yours, the whole Calvary are sent out to process it. I don't agree with what Ladbrokes have done to you, and I wish at the time of your bet, that better equipment was used and trained staff were present.

From what I have read on this site, the mistakes were made by staff, starting from the new cashier, all the way down the line, to the area manager. Now that's what I call a ' fuck up, a big fuck up.' Excuse the French Keith. No wonder they were all sacked, a bit to late for you.

Sorry if I rambling on here, but I have nearly finished. Before I go, I would like to say your bet missing on the camera, may have been the one of many that staff, purposely did at that time, and more so with accumulators. This being that they rarely ever came of as winners.

I wish you all the luck in the world with your quest at beating Ladbrokes, a happy ending to this tragic 11 yrs of your life is what you rightfully deserve!

Yours Sincerely

A guilty, EX-EMPLOYEE

Thanks Mr. Ex- employee, I am grateful for the letter you sent. I was a taken back some, on the scale of wrong doings in your shop. I would be most grateful if you could tell me if this happened in any of the other branches you may have worked at. That's if you had moved about. Once again, thanks!

Hi, would you really give half of £260,000 if certain info was given?

Look mate, if you can give me any sensitive information that I can use to help get my money , then I will use it. No ifs or buts! Any substantial amount, I would share.

Bloody hell! I use to work with them old cameras. They were always having trouble with the films. Better system now though. Fuck Ladbrokes. I work for William Hill now! Don't give up mate. This is the best thing I've seen happen to Ladbrokes. Show them for what they are, WORLDWIDE. Heeeeeeeeya!

Hello mate,

like the site. I think I saw you in a pub in Windsor, The Duke of Connaught. Would I be right? Like to have a chat some time. I use to work for Ladbrokes. I'm glad I don't anymore. Interesting what happened to you.

Bye!

Actually, I have been in the pub mentioned a couple of times. I am dating a girl in that area! So yes, you will see me about. Give me a ring if you like. Ta!

We got your letter Keith, and have looked at the web site. Fuck Ladbrokes that's all I can say.

Thanks to the chap who spoke to me in the pub this weekend. It was a good band. If you come up with anything else let me know. Ta!

Hi Keith. Did you live in Teingmouth, Devon for while ? Because if you did, you spoke to a colleague of mine. I may get in touch with you at a later date. Bye.

Yes! I lived there for a while, nice place. Was hoping to move there. Speak to you soon

Hello Keith.

I cant add to anything that has been said, but I want to say ' what a site ' It did make me chuckle. Have been busy moving to a new area, but I got the emails,

ta!

Keith!

Glad you came to the party on Saturday, certainly opened my eyes. Can't add to what has already been said. I'll have a dig around. Ladbrokes, huh! I worked for them and i can tell you, the staff were on the take at most of the shops I worked at. Mainly when it came to paying out. Fuck them and the staff I worked with, you know who you are! Keith put that on your web site.!

Dear Keith,

I've looked at your site many times and have read the book, not once but 4 times and have to say it is one of the best books I have ever read. The humour you injected into it had me laughing so many times. If you ever write another, let me know. The book should be turned into a film, have you thought of that?

I find it sad that the betting industry are a law to themselves. I left Ladbrokes quite a few years ago, and I have to say that in the days of your betting era, mistakes like yours were very, very, common! The technology wasn't there like it is today. But scams amongst the staff, still carries on. Under paying is rife!

I knew a little gang that worked in one of Ladbrokes shops, who successful made a small fortune out of the Joe public. Many novice punters haven't a clue about odds, especially when it comes to accumulators.

I would love to tell who they were and what shop, but that would open a can of worms and would involve me going to court. At the end of the day, it is stealing from your employer and the public! l find it hard to comprehend the way the shop was run on the day of your wining bet. The knocking out of the bet was not unusual in them days, and the slip often never got registered on the camera.

The film itself does not get pulled out like you were told by Ladbrokes. The cartridge is removed by an engineer and sent of for developing. This was one of the crucial points that made me believe in you! Scams did go on and some were so bluntly obvious, but when you look at the facts in your case, I have to admit Ladbrokes and Tattersals took you to the cleaners. Tattersals, they work for the bookies! If I had known you then, I would have told you not to waste £500 on that committee.

I am going to tell more people about your site and the book, as the public should be more aware of what goes on in the betting industry. I have lent the book out many times and from now on, I will tell my friends to get there own copy as it reflects on your sales. Ladbrokes, Corals, William Hills are all alike. About time the law changed! Keith, soldier on mate and be proud of what you have done, not many people would have battered Ladbrokes in the way you have done!

God bless you.

Hello mate!

Ha! Ha! Ha! I work for Ladbrokes and have to say this site hits the nail right on the head! Fuck em! Thanks for coming in the shop and telling me about this web site.

Hiya!

I have to admit, the comments on this page are believable! Been there and seen it, but I myself never got involved. Its hard enough for a punter to pick a winning horse, so short changing them out of their winnings is a bit below the belt. It does not matter what system any company uses, there will always be a flaw in it. As for the 1845 Gentleman's Agreement Act, well you know, it should be changed! Apparently, that act is now being looked into, but to late for you. Keep the site going and never give up. At most, this site shows Ladbrokes for what they are, arsol's! Thanks for such an interesting web site.

Date: 5/3/08 - message

The engineer who dealt with your camera was boasting whilst drunk, that he was famous for being on your web site.! He went onto say that. 'He tried to catch me out by ringing me at work. I nearly told him the truth about the film. Yes it was fucked! But hey, it's Ladbrokes that pay my wages.' Cannot say anymore than that, but hey, I was not the only one who heard that at the bar. I think my friend might contact a newspaper. I will let you know if I hear anything else. Thanks for that, and I got your other message and will arrange to call you.

And if you have something to tell me, that is different from the above, then I would like to know! Thanks for all your messages. I like reading them, and sorry if do not show all of them on here. But it would get boring for the reader to read matters that are basically the same - already covered!

Date 15/11/08 - e-mail message

This may put an end to your way of thinking, about the film that is! I cannot say who, where, what date, as I do not need any shit flying my way. The film did NOT GET caught up in the camera cassette ,end of story! Ladbrokes knew that the manager had fucked up that day, and remember Keith, the security and the film engineer came the day after!. The film was yanked out of the cameras cassette. Ladbrokes cannot dispute this, however they dress it up! Staff and many a punters were present and saw the film spread all over the fucking shop floor. I got this info from a very reliable source, maybe I am the engineer, ha! Do what you want Keith with this info, I don't give a fuck now! Sorry for what's happened to you.

DEC 2009 - Happy xmas from all our staff at the Ladbrokes shop in ******** Now Keith, we have followed you over the years, and good luck.

Ha! Ha! Thanks to you all, and those that brought the book. Cheers!!