Here are some of the Facts about Ladbrokes and Tattersalls.

Date 15/11/08 - e-mail message first paragraph below!

This may put an end to your way of thinking, about the film that is! I cannot say who, where, what date, as I do not need any shit flying my way. The film did NOT GET caught up in the camera cassette ,end of story! Ladbrokes knew that the manager had fucked up that day, and remember Keith, the security and the film engineer came the day after!. The film was yanked out of the cameras cassette. Ladbrokes cannot dispute this, however they dress it up! Staff and many a punters were present and saw the film spread all over the fucking shop floor. I got this info from a very reliable source, maybe I am the engineer, ha! Do what you want Keith with this info, I don't give a fuck now! Sorry for what's happened to you.

Before we get onto the main facts about Ladbrokes and Tattersals, I want you to read this - When my 1st web site hit the Internet back in the year 2000, the word Ladbrookes was not used in any form whatsoever by Ladbrokes the bookmakers! After a while they tried to sue me over this matter, but failed! Since then, they have infringed on my trademark, and have swamped the Internet with the word Ladbrookes. I now go by the name of Ladcrooks, and it will be amusing to see if Ladbrokes, will try and swamp the Internet again, with sites that bear the trademark Ladcrooks.

Time will tell!!! I wonder what it cost them the last time? If they do however, I will seriously look into suing them, Ladcrooks is not Ladbrokes. The letter below was sent by Ladbrokes solicitors to Nominet.

On the day of my bet, the shop consisted of staff that were not trained properly. The actual girl who took the bet had only done 3 days and part time only. She was supposed to be shadowed by another member of staff for 3 weeks before serving any customers. Ladbrokes own rules, but they failed to do so. They also made offers to the girl so that they could keep her under their wing. I mean, a flat and and another job elsewhere doesn't seem quite right, does it? Considering that she had only been with Ladbrokes 6 days when she finally quit her job.

The Assistant Manager was also incompetent, that was a result of being trained by a Manager who failed to show him the correct way to run the shop, and hence all the staff were removed from that shop.The Assistant Manager and the Area Manager made mistakes with my bet by knocking it out. I guess some can read and others not. They said my bet was not on film. This is the most detrimental point in being paid out on any bet. And yet they had trouble with the camera and film. The camera was well outdated and the film or parts of it ended up all over the floor in the shop. Here are some comments made by staff. : -

Assistant Manager - On Thursday 23 March I went into Ladbrokes (Woodhatch) to collect my wages. Whilst I was there I was told by a member of staff who I know, that a comment had been made by the engineer who removed the microfilm on the day of your win. I was told that the engineer had said that yours was not the only bet missed on the camera and that in fact there were numerous bets not photographed.

Manager - Whilst I do not know how many bets were missing on the film I can confirm that it was general knowledge amongst staff and engineers that a large percentage (I heard 40%) of the films were severely damaged, did not work properly and needed replacing. When I inquired about the processing,on behalf of Mr. Hughan, as there was a delay, there seemed to be a longer than normal period before a decision was made. It is my belief that they had problems developing the film and are trying to stop payment of the bet for no reason other than their own blind suspicion.

Betty the new cashier - Mr. Dunvan asked me at that time, did I normally put the tickets in sideways, upside down, round the wrong way, face down,I answered no. He then asked me would I have put a ?50 note over a ticket when putting it through the camera. Again I answered no, not intentionally but that the camera machine doesn't always take the ticket smoothly. Sometimes you may have to put tickets through more than once because they didn't always go through straight etc. the first time. Mr. Dunvan then asked me, if I had not done any of these things on the day of this bet, why then were the tickets on the film upside down, round the wrong way, one on top of another etc that day. I replied I did not know. He asked me if I had ever not put the ticket through the camera I said that to the best of my knowledge, no.

He wanted to know why some tickets went through the camera twice on some occasions. I told him that was simply because quite a few would fall off the tray that was there to catch them. I had been told that if I ever picked up the tickets off the floor, then I was to put them back through the camera, just to be on the safe side. This happened quite a lot.

After Security had arrived, sometime later an engineer arrived. It was quite busy at that time and behind the counterwere myself, Jane, John other staff, plus Security and the engineer. He appeared to have problems removing the film from the camera. He ended up with yards of film tape all over the floor behind the counter. It was impossible to serve customers because there was just no space with all the people behind the counter and the film all over the floor.

The Area Manager - Settlers, on a regular basis, mainly through not checking race results properly, make mistakes. In any day a settler may deal with an average of 500 slips, out of which approximately 10% will have mistakes. Most of these errors will be petty ones amounting to nothing, and going unnoticed. Some may result in under or overpaying while others might involve knocking out bets that were winners, but actually putting them down as losers.

Now I had two hearings with Tattersalls, who are bent beyond belief. The top part of my bet has never been shown to me. And It was said to Ladbrokes, that they must bring my top copy to the hearing. It's odd when you think, that the whole point of the hearing was to do with this bet, and yet they brought all the other bets except the one in question! Ladbrokes also stated that my bet was the only one missing from day one. But at the hearing I proved this to be another lie from Ladbrokes, who then confessed to another bet missing. Guess what? They said it was another one of mine! Ishowed to the committee, outstanding evidence of this dilemma, but they dismissed everything.

The day after the hearing had me going into the shop, and I got behind the counter and smashed the camera. The result of this, was that they never had a camera for a day and and a half. Now the shop should have closed down, but they carried on trading without a camera. Sooooooooo! They do pay out if your bet is not on the camera!

Ladbrokes are now saying that my case was dealt with the IBAS, and they did not pay me out, owing to their decision. Another lie from Ladbrokes, as the IBAS did not exist then. Ladbrokes! Just carry on making the excuses, OK? I now have some conclusive evidence to substantiate my case (July 04 ). This has only just transpired . Fingers crossed!

I had 4 meetings with Ladbrokes. At the last meeting, instead of one representative, there was two. This was another nail in their coffin, as they had a debate over the type of camera used in the shop where my bet was placed. It was agreed without a doubt, the cartridge type! This meant that there was no reason for any of the film to be displaced all over the floor.

This is is similar to the type used for my bet,'' PERIOD,'' and my camera was 20 yrs old, I checked with the company above!!!

Read Betty's paragraph again! From the very beginning they had stated that they pull out the excess film out of the camera. That type of camera was used well before my time! This excuse was given to me to squash any thoughts I had about the development of the film. And think on this, why would they bother to have these meetings with me if I was the one in the wrong trying to scam them? It was to try and suppress any evidence I had.

 

Guardian Angel - Fact! Yes they did get their windows smashed and one shop got completely wrecked etc.

Gambling is a mugs game! The bookies win in the end.